The oral history .

Alwar was a part of the Matsya Kingdom, one of the sixteen ancient Mahājanapadas

The oral history preserved in the traditional folktales and folklores of this tribe affirm the kingdom of Meena (Mindesh) with its capital at Amber.”Meena history spread over eleventh (11th) and twelfth (12th) century AD.^[1]

Oral History- tells the heroic tales of violent clashes between Meena and Rajput chiefs are centered around Dhundhar- the ancient kingdom of the Meenas. The name Dhundhar is derived from a celebrated sacrificial mount on the western frontiers near Jobner.^[2]

At the beginning of the eleventh century, the Kachchhwahs (turtles) from Narwar snatched the territory from the Meenas (fish) of the Matsya region and established the mighty Kachhwaha kingdom of Amber.

MATSYA or MEENA THE KSHATRIYA TRIBE

The Rig Veda mentions Pure Kshatriya tribes of ancient India which includes Bhāratas, Meenas, etc.

Matsya: (RV Vll/18/6). A tribe opposing Sudas in the famous Battle of the Ten Kings. They are to be identified with Machar dan of the Jats on the ground that the Sanskrit Matsya becomes Mach in Prakrit and -ar is a suffix. Mahabharata  records the name of king Virata of the Matsya people, as Machela^[3][4]

The book by Alfred Comyn Lyall covers the early formations of Meena cast, their adventures, outlaws, outcast, and refugees generally. The book highlights on the fact of Meenas groups having Bharman and Scythian ancestors. Where most of the Meenas preserve the name of the higher clan or Cast from which founder emigrated and joined Meenas. Some names denote only the founder's original habitation, while other circle bears the names of notorious ancestors.^[5]

The Meena kings were the early rulers of Rajasthan including Amber (early capital of Jaipur). The book "Culture and Integration of India Tribes" by R.S.Mann mentions that Meenas are considered as a Kshatriya caste equally as Rajputs, and having higher social status in the society. They are well integrated with other higher castes like Brahmins, Gurjaras etc. Brahmins perform all rituals from birth, marriage and death for Meenas like for any other higher Hindu caste.^[6]

ANCIENT INDUS VALLEY & MATSYA

The find from this site belong to the mature Harappan phase as well as later-era PGW phase (Vedic period). The Painted Grey Ware culture (PGW) probably corresponds to the middle and late Vedic period, i.e., the Kuru–Panchala kingdom, the first large state in South Asia after the decline of the Indus Valley Civilization (IVC).^[7] Painted Grey Ware culture (PGW) chiefdoms in the region were succeeded by Northern Black Polished Ware (NBPW).

From c. 700-500 BCE, associated with the rise of the great mahajanapada states (mahajanapada states Kuru, Panchala, Matsya, Surasena and Vatsa)^[8]

Sign of matsya in indus valley civilization

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Indus Fish symbol and Vishnu Another interesting coincidence is ‘Vishnu Sahasra nama ‘ describes Vishnu as a Fish –‘Rohithaya’ (name 364). More over Lord Vishnu’s first incarnation was a Fish ( Matsya Avatar) and many Indus scholars agree that the Indus fish symbol denotes god. Fish is drawn on many seals and objects in the Indus valley. This animals are worshipped by the Hindus for thousands of years.

Seal from indus valley , we can saw the FISH sign in many seals and it may refers to an ancient kingdom (matsya kingdom)^[9]

The first symbol identified by me was “fish” symbol  (Matsya), which stood for “Ma” sound. Interpretation of this symbol is quite easy and simple.^[10]

Oldest Janpad Matsya janpad

As per Britannica:- The Meena are possibly of inner Asiatic origin, and tradition suggests that they migrated to India in the 7th century . According to evidences and scholars, Meena tribe is one of the oldest tribal community,residing since 30,000 years. Around 7000 BCE, the first known Neolithic settlements appeared on the subcontinent in Mehrgarh.These gradually developed into the Indus Valley Civilisation, the first urban culture in South Asia . It flourished during 2500–1900 BCE in western India. Centred around cities such as Mohenjo-daro, Harappa, Dholavira, and Kalibangan, and relying on varied forms of subsistence, the civilisation engaged robustly in crafts production. During the period 2000–500 BCE, in terms of culture, many regions of the subcontinent transitioned from the Chalcolithic to the Iron Age. In the Vedic period, around the 5th century BCE, the chiefdoms of the Ganges Plain and the north-western regions had consolidated into 16 major oligarchies and monarchies that were known as the mahajanapadas, in which Matsya janpad of Meena tribe established their kingdom in Rajasthan.^[11]

THE DRAVIDIAN ?

Bhil Meenas of Rajasthan are dravidian!

In the ancient times Rajasthan was ruled by a dynasty of Meenas which had the emblem of Fish like the Pandyan kingdom of the south. The Meena kingdom ruled the east of the river Jamuna roughly corresponding to the modern Jaipur and Alwar (ruler) areas. The meena kingdom (Fish kingdom) was called Matsya Kingdom in Sanskrit was mentioned in the Rig Veda. The Bhil Meenas could correspond to the Dravidian Villavar (Chera) and Meenavar (Pandya Kingdom)respectively and may descend from indigenous Dravidian rulers (Alwars) originally. Most of the Bhil Meenavas were aryanised even during the Vedic Period (1500 BC) and were considered as Vedic Tribes and had adopted Indo Aryan languages but a minority of the Bhil (tribal) Meenas still talk Dravidian as their mother tongue. ^[12][13]. Bhils and Meenas are included in the Kshatriya Varna^[14]

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2. ^ "An Anthropological Study of Meena Tribe of Rajasthan".
3. ^ "Sabha Parva, Mahabharata - Jatland Wiki". www.jatland.com. Retrieved 2020-09-07.
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5. ^ Lyall, Alfred C. (1899). Asiatic studies, religious snd social : 1: New ed. OCLC 1175710362.
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7. ^ Sarbacker, Stuart Ray; Patton, Laurie L.; Bronkhorst, Johannes; Chapple, Christopher Key; Wallace, Vesna (2011). Samuel, Geoffrey (ed.). "Contextualizing the History of Yoga in Geoffrey Samuel's "The Origins of Yoga and Tantra": A Review Symposium". International Journal of Hindu Studies. 15 (3): 303–357. ISSN 1022-4556.
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1. Matsya Avatar Ravi Varma Press1880

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Title: Matsya Avatar
Creator: Ravi Varma Press
Date Created: 1880
Physical Dimensions: 25 x 35 cm
Type: Reproduction
Rights: Raja Ravi Varma Heritage Foundation, Bengaluru
Art Form: Print
Labels and Inscriptions: Ravi Varma Press, Malavli, Lonavala
Creator's Lifetime: 1848-04-29/1906-10-02
Collection: From the Sandeep & Gitanjali Maini Foundation
About the Artist: Raja Ravi Varma (1848-1906), India’s foremost artist, who took art to the masses, hailed from Kilimanoor, in the erstwhile state of Travancore. From a very young age, Ravi Varma, was drawn towards art, imbibing techniques from his uncle and mentor Raja Raja Varma and his mother, Umayamba Bayi, a poet in her own right. Varma was much sought after by the Royals and owing to his popularity and reputation, his spectacular and richly-textured works were prolific. His realistic portrayals of contemporary figures and interpretations of religious and mythological figures fetched him instant and enduring success, lifting his standing in the art world. If the Royals and his countrymen were in awe of this great talent, the international world was spellbound by his imagination and creativity. He ensured that art would be accessible to all, through reproductions of his paintings which were made available, and affordable to everyone.

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There are still places known as "Pandupol" near Virat Nagar. After Pandavas went to Himalaya, the son delivered by Uttarā was "Parikhishit" who inherited Pandavas and ruled India. Uttarā was pregnant then. His son Janmejay did a Yagya to finish all Nagas at "Nagdah" known as "Nagada" now in MP. They ruled this area (near to Virat Nagar) till 11 th century. The city of this Janpad was "Virat Nagar", now known as "Bairath" and renamed as Virata Nagar again. In the epic Mahabharata, Uttarm, the prince of Meena Kingdom and the son of King Virata, at whose court the Pandavas spent a year in concealment during their exile. Meenas are the brothers and kinsmen of Virata, the ruler of Virat Nagar. After Abhimanyu died in battle of Kurukshetra, and all Pandav sons were killed by Ashwathama they were left without progeny. Among their last Kingdoms Dhundhar was the biggest and later on the region was governed by the Kachwaha dynasty from the 11th century until after India's independence in 1947. He was killed by "Takshak" a Naga or Nagvanshi Khastriya. Abhimanyu the son of Arjun and great warrior married to daughter of King of Virat Nagar the princess was named Uttarā. King Virat and all his sons and brothers were killed at Kurukshetra in Mahabharat. At the time of great Epic Mahabharat was written there was a Janpad known as "Matsya Janpad". The Pandavas got shelter there for one year. Some of clan brothers ruled this area after him. Many historical evidence is recovered from this area all belonging to time of Lord Buddha. He was the brother of Uttarā, who married Arjuna's son.

Bibliography

Matsya 1970, Viewed 30 August 2020, <http://meenawiki.com/index.php?title=Matsya&setlang=hi>.

Matsya and Meena

The Himalayas are treated as a boundary between the earthly existence and land of salvation beyond. Notably, this includes being told that he will spend the 'night of Brahma' on the ship (i.e. As part of a sanskritisation process, some Bhils present themselves as Meenas, who hold a higher socio-economic status compared to the Bhil tribal people.[24]

In general, most of Meena's friends have some association with governing bodies at the international and national and regional level. the Saptarishi.



Bhil Meena is another sub-division among the Meenas. Treated as a parable, the tale advises a good king should protect the weak from the mighty, reversing the "law of fishes" and uphold dharma, like Manu, who defines an ideal king.[3] In the tales where the demon hides the Vedas, dharma is threatened and Vishnu as the divine Saviour rescues dharma, aided by his earthly counterpart, Manu - the king.[166]

R. Dalal describes the Agni Purana as an 'encyclopedic work, which is classified as a SHAIVITE Purana, through is begins with a section on VISHNU, and has several other topics'.[79] As narrated by Agni to the sage Vasistha (one of the Saptarishis), in this account, as Manu 'was offering waters of libation in the (river) Krtamala, a small fish came in the waters in his folded palms', seeking protection from crocodiles and others. Jaigarh Fort situated on the hill premonitory called the Cheel ka Teela (Hill of Eagles) of the Aravalli hill ranges when it was ruled by Meenas, it overlooks the Amber Fort and the Moata Lake, near Amber in Jaipur, Rajasthan, India. Meena prefers reputable, socially pragmatic friends who work steadily toward the realization of material goals.



In the early medieval era, Rajasthan was ruled by a dynasty of Meenas which had the emblem of Eagle. the time of universal dissolution lasting 1000 yugas or 'celestial years' where all creation begins again anew) while 'being encircled by the seven sages', i.e. The protection of the fish and its horn represent the sacrifices that help guide Manu to salvation. Growing and being transferred first to a vessel, then to a tank, and then the ocean when finally 'in size extending to a lakh of yojanas', Manu identifies the fish as Vishnu, who warns of the impending flood and instructs him to board a ship with seeds, etc. In which the Meenas were to become a key ally of the Kachwahas. The hill that Jaigarh was built was called Chil Tila, when it was ruled by Meenas. Many of the ancient structures of the medieval period of the Meena Maharajas have been either destroyed or replaced. Matsya is believed to symbolise the aquatic life as the first beings on earth.[165] Another symbolic interpretation of the Matsya mythology is, states Bonnefoy, to consider Manu's boat to represent moksha (salvation), which helps one to cross over. In the ancient map of Nahari ka Naka (Jaipur), the inscriptions mentions that the white rocks at this region shows the traditions of the Meenas, in which the tigers came here to pay respect to the Meenas. However, the Amer Fort and the palace complex within it are well preserved by the later rulers. The old and original fort of Amer dating from earlier Rajas or the Meena reign is what is known in the present day as Jaigarh fort, which is actually the main defensive structure, rather than the palace itself, although the two structures are interconnected by series of encompassing fortification. Later on the state is said to have been founded about eleventh century or 1097 by Dūlaha Rāya, who hailed from Gwalior; he and his Kachwaha kinsmen are said to have absorbed or driven out the local Meenas and Badgujar Rajput chiefs.

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Matsya 1970, Viewed 30 August 2020, <http://meenawiki.com/index.php?title=Matsya&setlang=hi>.

Matsya 1970, Viewed 30 August 2020, <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matsya>.

Meena 1970, Viewed 30 August 2020, <https://www.jatland.com/home/Meena>.

R12 Meena Matsya * Pisces ascendant * BP Lama Jyotishavidya 1970, Viewed 30 August 2020, <https://barbarapijan.com/bpa/Rashi_Lagna/12meena_lagna.htm>.

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Not a proud moment.”

“It was appalling for me to see a parallel judicial system running in Rajasthan for such a long period. One great Meena King BADA was the last king from Meenas who was contemporary to the period of Akbar. You will learn that all these castes (Meenas, Gurjars and Jats) do smoke together, eat together and are involved deeply in each other's lives. Kandasamy’s political passion comes alive as she warms to her theme. Meenas is a Vedic Tribe and they strongly follow vedic traditions right from the birth to death. That is because, if the accounts from her home province are true, she is an adulterer: though already married, she ran away with another man, moving south until her family caught up with them.



Starting from the Panna Meena stepwell in Amber Village, this guided walk first takes you to visit the old settlement of Meena Tribe on the outskirts of Jaipur. I agree that putting Meenas under reservation umbrella was not because of a comma mistake! Thanks.



After reading her playful, political novels – described by reviewers as “explosive” and “radical” – it’s a surprise to find Meena Kandasamy to be quiet and diffident in person. How can you claim that they also discriminate Meenas? The reservation was given becasue of their under-representation in all sectors. “It’s not a polite term to use but I think there’s an element of ‘brown-washing’ going on, like making Priti Patel the face of hard Brexit, following very racist immigration policies, but using a brown person to push it through. But also, as she tells me: “I think I’m much better writing down what I feel.”

For weeks afterward, she was often unconscious, always uncommunicative and, but for the hospital staff, utterly alone, with no family members to care for her. Meenas enjoy higher social status just equal to the Brahmins and Rajputs! Please have a visit to Meenas, Gurjars and Jats dominated areas and seek opinion about Meenas. Because they were pushed back by later ruling classes. There was no existence of healthy competition since centuries (specially after they lost their Kingdoms). Throughout this moderate trek, this guide will point out items of interest as well as offering unparallel insights into this remarkable area and its history.

The Americans and Europeans have put a special emphasis on programs to help Afghan women and raise awareness of their rights. I wonder why no one has ever tried to stop it, especially after the Supreme Court order banning caste panchayats, also called khap panchayats in some states,” said Justice Tatia in his order.

Dear Ashish, Can you please explain what kind of discrimination they were facing since 11th Century? Isn't it true that MEENAS were a Ruling Class before 11th Century? Have you heard about Matsya Kingdome that was one among the 16 Mahajanpadas in ancient India? Matsya was name of Meenas only. The name of each Mahajanpada was after its Kshatriya Tribe. Meenas and Gurjars are quite identical in all respects. The combined armies of Akbar and Bharmal attacked Bada Meena and conquerred his kingdom. You will then ascend the Aravalli hills along a historic path which offers breathtaking views of the surrounding landscape, including tiny villages in the distance and the magnificent Amber Fort. Today this may be because she is not feeling well; she keeps a scarf wrapped around her throughout our conversation. Meenas, Gurjars, Jats and Yadavas belong to the same Indo-Aryan Stock. Now, as the Western money and presence are dwindling, women’s advocates fear that even the limited gains will erode and a more tribal and Taliban culture will prevail, especially in the south and east of the country, where Pashtun tribal attitudes toward women are strongly held.

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How Meenas got ST status 1970, Viewed 30 August 2020, <https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/how-meenas-got-st-status/articleshow/2087874.cms>.

Imagine 1970, Meena Tribal Walk | Specialist Tailor, Viewed 30 August 2020, <https://www.imaginetravel.com/experiences/meena-tribal-walk>.

In Rajasthan, tribal body acts as family court for ST couples 1970, Viewed 30 August 2020, <https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/in-rajasthan-a-tribal-organization-not-courts-gives-divorce-decrees/story-kAU0nQnORMI5O80aVMeMdJ.html>.

Meena Kandasamy: 'If I was going to write my life story, I would ... 1970, Viewed 30 August 2020, <https://www.theguardian.com/books/2019/nov/25/meena-kandasamy-interview-exquisite-cadavers>.

With Aid, Afghan 'Honor' Victim Inches Back 1970, Viewed 30 August 2020, <https://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/02/world/asia/doctors-and-others-buck-tradition-in-afghan-honor-attack.html>.

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“I shivered when I saw it,” said Mr. Azimi, who was one of the villagers called in to help. He and others borrowed a car and drove her to the hospital in Jalalabad.



She wanted to show how the ideas she took from the internet affected the protagonists’ story, but found that “the inspiration would occupy a big chunk of text, and only two or three lines would be what happens to Maya and Karim. It seemed unfair to them, so I had to collapse my inspirations into the margins.”

Starting from the Panna Meena stepwell in Amber Village, this guided walk first takes you to visit the old settlement of Meena Tribe on the outskirts of Jaipur. You will then ascend the Aravalli hills along a historic path which offers breathtaking views of the surrounding landscape, including tiny villages in the distance and the magnificent Amber Fort. Throughout this moderate trek, this guide will point out items of interest as well as offering unparallel insights into this remarkable area and its history.



From the fine folks at Tara Books, who brought us such hand-crafted gems as The Night Life of Trees and I Like Cats, comes Nurturing Walls -- a tender tribute to the Mandana tradition of public art and the women who make it. The book itself is a piece of art, printed on thick brown craft-paper that mirrors the mud walls of Meena homes and silk-screened by hand in Tara Books' fair-trade workshop in Chennai. Each image in every book is thus an original print, and the pages themselves emit the rich earthy smell of artisanal craft.

This is one of the several divorce orders that this organization has passed since its inception in 1958. At least three women, including Pratibha, who feel the body has encroached upon their human rights, have approached the commission (RSHRC), which on July 6 issued a notice to the Rajasthan government and state police asking how a caste panchayat can be allowed to run like a parallel court.

Gul Meena’s story, as best it can be pieced together from relatives, tribal elders and others, gives insight into that deeply entrenched tribal culture. But it is also a story about a society struggling to come to terms with a different way of thinking about women.

It is a credit to many people — villagers, doctors, the police, rights advocates — that they chose to help Gul Meena, overcoming centuries of distaste for dealing with so-called moral crimes. The doctors at the Nangarhar Regional Medical Center who first treated her and cared for her for weeks were aware of her likely transgressions and chose to ignore them. However, the doctors, who say Gul Meena is about 18, were also bewildered about what to do with her.

“What is destroying us is this useless, unofficial justice, these tribal jirgas. The tribal elders, the jirgas, always violate the provisions of the law,” he said. “Many things in this case need investigation: why did she run away from her husband’s house? Maybe he was old, maybe he was impotent, maybe he didn’t feed her,” he added. “They should bring her to the court. We have laws in this country.”

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NEW DELHI: A simple comma changing the entire profile of a community! It may sound unbelievable, but this is what happened in the report of the National SC/ST Commission, set up in 1954, which saw the Meenas, a rich land-owning community mainly inhabiting the western districts of Rajasthan, being conferred the ST status.The commission wanted to recommend ST status to ‘Bhil Meenas’, a community dotting the south-eastern parts of Rajasthan and adjoining areas in Madhya Pradesh and Gujarat. However, the printed version of the report, by mistake advocated granting ST status to “Bhil, Meenas”. Thus Meenas were also inducted into the ST list.And now, having cornered a lion’s share of the government jobs reserved for the tribals, they are, not surprisingly, up in arms against the proposal to facilitate the migration of Gurjars from the list of OBCs to STs in the state.

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Crime, Liberalism and Empire: Governing the Mina Tribe of Northern ... 1970, Viewed 30 August 2020, <https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0964663904042551>.

How Meenas got ST status 1970, Viewed 30 August 2020, <https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/how-meenas-got-st-status/articleshow/2087874.cms>.

Imagine 1970, Meena Tribal Walk | Specialist Tailor, Viewed 30 August 2020, <https://www.imaginetravel.com/experiences/meena-tribal-walk>.

In Rajasthan, tribal body acts as family court for ST couples 1970, Viewed 30 August 2020, <https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/in-rajasthan-a-tribal-organization-not-courts-gives-divorce-decrees/story-kAU0nQnORMI5O80aVMeMdJ.html>.

Maria Popova 1970, 'Nurturing Walls': Preserving an Indian Tribal Art Tradition , Viewed 30 August 2020, <https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2011/10/nurturing-walls-preserving-an-indian-tribal-art-tradition/246709/>.

Meena Kandasamy: 'If I was going to write my life story, I would ... 1970, Viewed 30 August 2020, <https://www.theguardian.com/books/2019/nov/25/meena-kandasamy-interview-exquisite-cadavers>.

With Aid, Afghan 'Honor' Victim Inches Back 1970, Viewed 30 August 2020, <https://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/02/world/asia/doctors-and-others-buck-tradition-in-afghan-honor-attack.html>.