We are a Teenager of the Meena Tribe, and we proud of our culture and we respect our "samaj". We have some questions.
1.Why we don't know about our history?
2.Why Our Tribe was treated as a criminal Tribe?
3.Why some People hate Us (specially, when they know that we are From ST ).
4.Why our parents don't give freedom whether it is Boy/Girl ( As compared to other Guys).
Thanks to God for giving us the best Parents. But, why they don't want their children as an Owner of the Company, As a Musician
Villavars (Bowmen or archers)and Meenavars (fishermen) are the two ancient dynasties among the Dravidians who ruled the whole of India in the ancient times.The Villavar may represent the Cheras while Minavar many represent Pandyas. The Minavars and Villavars founded the Pandyan kingdom in the ancient times. Nadars are the Villavar warriors of the Pandyan kingdom or the Meenavar kingdom who formed the ruling dynasty. Enadhy or Enadi was an ancient title of Nadars. Enadhy Nayanar was a saint believed to belong to the Shanar tribe. Enadi ( Eyinan (Archer) + Adhi (ancient)),an ancient title of Nadars clearly indicates their villavar origins.The Villavar (Archer) Rulers Pandyan or Panayudaya nadu(Thamraparni area with the capital at Tenkasi)who integrated the Meenavar or fishermen country founded the ancient Pandyan dynasty with the capital at Korkai. The related Villavar clans of Kerala founded the Chera dynasty.The Chera kingdom had Bow and arrow as the insignia. The Chera kings added the title Villavar to their titles. All the Villavar clans added the title Alwar,Alvar or Aluvar. Similarly the Thulu Pandyan dynasty (The Alupas kingdom) added Aluvar or Aluva or Alwa.The Pandyan equivalent people of Tulunad are Nadavas who mixed with Bunts(a North Indian people who came from Ahichatra in UP)and have become a subcaste of Bunts. The Chera kings also added Alwar as title.Eg Kulasekhara alwar, the Chera King who wrote Perumal Thirumozhi in 801 ad. Nadalvar is the title of the Pandyan aristocracy in ancient times. Many of the Alwars of the Chera and Pandyan dynasty became Vaishnavaite saints who often took the title Pattar leading to the mistaken belief that they were brahmins.Perialvar belonged to Sri Villiputhur or Sri Villuputhur, had the title Azhvar clearly indicate the Pandyan(Villavar) origins. Further Perialvar had the title Patta Naadan. The Villavar clans of Pandyan origin are are Nadalvar ( Nadar)Nadavas of Karnataka Nalavar of Sri Lanka. The Villavar of Chera Kingdom,Illava or Ezhavas of Chera Kingdom with origins at Sri Lanka, Billavas of Karnataka. In north India Villavar and Meenavar are Bhil Meenas of Rajastan, Meenas of Rajastan and Bhils of North India who form the RajputKshatriya clans.Nadars are Villavar Bowmen warriors who mixed with Meenavar or fishermen and assumed the title Nadalvar (rulers of the country)or Meenavan orPandiyan.Pandiya (talk) 14:01, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
Villavar — Villavars [cite book last=V. first= Kanakasabhai title= The Tamils Eighteen Hundred Years Ago origyear= year=1997 publisher= Asian Educational Services location= isbn= 8120601505] were the primary rulers among the Dravidians who once ruled the… … Wikipedia
Meenavar — In the ancient times Rajasthan was ruled by a dynasty of Meenas which had the emblem of Fish like the Pandyan kingdom of the south. The Meena kingdom ruled the east of the river Jamuna roughly corresponding to the modern Jaipur and Alwar (ruler)… … Wikipedia
Nadars belong to a warrior caste, the people who were warriors ruled the country in ancient India. The famous Cholas and Pandiyas were Nadars. They ruled this “Nadu” (country); hence they were called Nadalvar (Nadu- country, alvar- ruler).As the Nadar are more found in the southern part of Tamil nadu, most of the researchers believe Nadars are the Pandiyas, as the southern part of Tamil nadu is the region of the Pandiyas. The Nadar Mahajana Sangam, the biggest association of the Nadars which united the Nadars in the early 19th century and restored power of the Nadars, has the Pandiyan Flag (Fish) as their symbol. A group of Nadars in the Tirunelvelli district believes they are the ascendants of the Cholas, they have collected the records of it.However the Nadars were the people who ruled the country. Posted by ParamasivanEmail ThisBlogThis!Share to TwitterShare to FacebookShare to Pinterest
Nadar or Nadalvar are the aristocrats of ancient Villavar people. Nadalvar Nadazhwar Nadava (Alupas Pandyan Kingdom) Nadvaru Nadar Nadan all variants. Alwar Alva(Karnataka) also are similar titles of Villavar aristocracy. Villavars and their Northern cousins Banas ruled most of India from prehistory. Villavar subgroups were Villavar, Vanavar, Malayar and their seagoing cousins Meenavar. Ancient Tamil Coins displayed Hill, Bow and arrow and Fish insignia of various subgroups of Villavars Villavars founded Chera Chola and Pandyan Kingdoms. Chola kings belonged to Vanavan sub group of Villavars. Chola Queens were called Villavan Madevi or Vanavan Madevi. Pandyans were called Marans and related to the Vanathi Rayar subgroups of Villavar. Madurai Kanchi describes the palaces of Perumbanar (Villavar) and Santor. Villavar Cheras were called Villavar Kon as well as Vanavar Kon.The Northern cousins of Villavars, Banas founded Kadamaba kingdom of Banavasi, Alupas Pandyan Kingdom of Tulunadu, Bana Kingdoms with capitals at Sannamur, Perumbanappadi, and Kolar.The North Indian cousins of Villavar could be Bhils and Meenas. (A mixed tribe of Bhil Meena also exist). Meenas who founded the Matsya Kingdom south of Yamuna river four thousand years ago. Similar to Pandyan kingdom of Nadars Matsya Kingdom also had fish as emblem. Northern India had many Bana kingdoms as welll. Bana is the Sanskritised form of Villavar.
Meenavar Please note that the content of this book primarily consists of articles available from Wikipedia or other free sources online. The Meenavar are a Hindu caste found in the state of Tamil Nadu in India. In the ancient times Rajasthan was ruled by a dynasty of Meenas which had the emblem of Fish like the Pandyan kingdom of the south. The Meena kingdom ruled the east of the river Jamuna roughly corresponding to the modern Jaipur and Alwar (ruler) areas.
Meenavars are the very ancient peoples of tamilnadu .meenavars formed the pandiyan dynasty and give the fish symbol for that meenavars are the kings,rulers and warriors of pandiyan dynasty.They are known to be as Pandiya Kula Kshatriyas. ----User Review
Castes name: Parvatharajakulam, Sembadavar, pattinavar, Mukkuvar, paravar, chinna pattinavar and Karaiyar. Harappa seals belonging to the Indus Valley civilization have large numbers of pictures of fish. According to Professor Asko Parpola, fish is also one of the most popular motifs of the early Harappan painted pottery. This short article presents a hypothesis on the significance of the fish symbol in Harappan seals. Most scholars of Indus Valley civilization believe that it was a Dravidian or proto-Dravidian civilization. Tamil language is one of the oldest of Dravidian languages. Presently Tamil people live in the southern region of the Indian peninsula and in the north-eastern region of the Sri Lankan Island. What is the ancestry of Tamils? Legend has it that there was a large landmass south of the Indian peninsula called the continent of Kumari (Kumari Kandam). Westerners refer to this ancient continent as "Lemuria". There is geological evidence that there was, in fact, a landmass south of the Indian peninsula. According to legend and some literary references, Tamils populated this continent and kings belonging to the Pandyan dynasty (Pandya dynasty) ruled the land. This landmass submerged and some of the population came north to what is today the Indian subcontinent. It is possible that Tamils (or Dravidians) lived in India already and the "refugees" joined them. It is also quite conceivable that there was some migration and interaction between the north and south even before the tragic event. After the submergence of the southern landmass, Pandyan kings established their kingdom in southern India with Madurai as their capital. They ruled from Madurai as late as the 14-th Century AD. Their country, which was part of Tamil Nadu, was called Pandyanadu (or Pandya Nadu). Padynan dynasty is the oldest of the three ruling dynasties of Tamil Nadu, namely, the Chera, Chola and Pandya dynasties. The royal emblem of the Padya dynasty is fish. Tamil word for fish is "meen". Pandyan king is sometimes referred to as "meenavan". Their deity is "Meenatchi" (or Meenashi or Meenakshi). "Meen" means fish (as we said before), and "aatchi" means rule. Thus the name "Meenatchi" may mean "one who rules over the Pandyan dynasty". Even today there is a temple for goddess Meenatchi (Meenashi) in Madurai. Thus fish is an important symbol for Tamils. So the fish symbols in Harappan seals may refer to their ancestral king and/or the goddess. courtesy to http://www.tamiltribune.com Pathuppāttu – Mathuraikānchi Pathuppāttu Song – Mathuraikānchi மதுரைக் காஞ்சி – This is one fo the Pathupāttu songs – published in 1889 ஆசிரியர் - மாங்குடி மருதனார் மன்னன் – பாண்டியன் நெடுஞ்செழியன், also known as தலையாலங்கானத்துச் செருவென்ற பாண்டியன் (believed to have lived around 215 A.D.) This song has 782 lines – longest of Pathupāttu songs “முருகு பொருநாறு பாணிரண்டு முல்லை பெருகு வளமதுரைக் காஞ்சி – மருவினிய கோலநெடு நல் வாடை கோல் குறிஞ்சி பட்டினப் பாலை கடாத்தொடும் பத்து”. The poet Māngudi Maruthanār, who also goes by the name Māngudi Kizhār, has also written poems in Purananuru – 24, 26, 313, 335, 372, 396 and in Kurunthokai – 164, 302 and Natrinai 120. He might have been the court poet for king Pandiyan Nedunchezhian, whose Madurai is praised in Puranānuru 72. There is a good description of the Pandiyan country and life in Madurai. The market place, Buddhist shrines, Jain shrines, riches the warriors brought home and all the activity in the city in the day and during the night. According to the Tamil and Sanskrit
Similarly the early Pandyan kingdom used Hill as insignia as well. Malaya Thwaja Paandyan is one of the Early Pandyan kings.
Thus Pandyans used Bow and Arrow, Hill and Fish all indicate the subgroups of Villavars.
While the Villavar kings used the title Maveli their northern cousins used the title Mahabali.
The ancient Villavar-Bana ruler Mahabali might have ruled from Eraniel. Eranial is otherwise called Hiranya Simha Nallur in the ancient times named after the Great grandfather of Mahabali. Mahabalis son was called Banasura.
In Andhrapradesh the descendents of Bana kingdom and Mahabali are called as Balija. Setti-Balija is a subgroup under the Goud community in Andhra. Similarly Balijas are found among Kapus also. Balijas descend from the Norhern cousins of Villavars, the Banas. Setti-Balijas claim that they are closely related to Nadars.
Many Bana clans in North India are mixed with Jats and Rajputs.
Bhils and Meenas survive in many North India states. Meena whose Matsya Kingdom was mentioned in Rigveda had kingdoms in the middle ages too. Meena also called Meenanda might be the Northern cousins of Nadars.
Posted in | at 10:10 PM An earlier passage mentions a ‘much later period [for the Shamballa base] … in the ancient Maya institutions’. Mayan cosmology has come much to the fore in recent times. The year 2012 is the end of a cycle in the Mayan calendar. Given the close similarity between the Mayans and the ancient Egyptians, the Mayans were most likely part of the second subrace of the Fifth Rootrace (5.2):
“The author [Le Plongeon] seems to believe and to seek to prove that the esoteric learning of the Aryans and the Egyptians was derived from the Mayas. But, although certainly coeval [the same or equal age] with Plato’s Atlantis, the Mayas belonged to the Fifth continent, which was preceded by Atlantis and Lemuria.” [1] The ‘Fifth Continent’ can be counted two ways. Exoterically and geographically it is the Americas, but esoterically it is Europe. Either way, the Mayans are associated with the Fifth Rootrace in consciousness: “The Fifth Continent was America; but, as it is situated at the Antipodes, it is Europe and Asia Minor, almost coeval with it, which are generally referred to by the Indo-Aryan Occultists as the fifth. If their teaching followed the appearance of the Continents in their geological and geographical order, then this classification would have to be altered. But as the sequence of the Continents is made to follow the order of evolution of the Races, from the first to the fifth, our Aryan Root-race, Europe must be called the fifth great Continent … There was a time when the delta of Egypt and Northern Africa belonged to Europe, before the formation of the Straits of Gibraltar, and a further upheaval of the continent, changed entirely the face of the map of Europe.” [2]
Hence, looking at Europe and its association with Egypt, or the Americas and its association with places like Guatemala - the main habitation of the Mayans, there can be seen an association or derivation from the Fifth Rootrace, not the Atlantean race. Although ancient Egypt constituted the second subrace of the Fifth Rootrace (5.2), it was regarded esoterically as a bridge between Atlantis and the Fifth Rootrace; likewise, the Mayans probably functioned in a similar manner:
“The perfect identity of the rites, ceremonies, traditions, and even the names of the deities, among the Mexicans and ancient Babylonians and Egyptians, are a sufficient proof of South America being peopled by a colony which mysteriously found its way across the Atlantic. When? at what period? History is silent on that point; but those who consider that there is no tradition, sanctified by ages, without a certain sediment of truth at the bottom of it, believe in the Atlantis-legend.” [3] The period in question is around 860,000 years ago, at the time of the second major flooding of Atlantis when the majority of the ‘troublesome sorcerers’ met their watery fate.
(India) Vanadevata's (wood spirit) hand issuing from tree trunk offering water.(Egypt) deceased drinking water offered by tree divinity. [4]
Note the temple pictured above and its resemblance in colour and style to that of the Egyptians. South American pyramids are of course related to Egyptian pyramids: “The GREAT DRAGON has respect but for the ‘SERPENTS’ of WISDOM, the Serpents whose holes are now under the triangular stones,” i.e., “the Pyramids, at the four corners of the world.” … This tells us clearly that … the Adepts or “Wise” men of the three Races (the Third, Fourth and the Fifth) dwelt in subterranean habitats, generally under some kind of pyramidal structure, if not actually under a pyramid. For such “pyramids” existed in the four corners of the world and were never the monopoly of the land of the Pharaohs, though until found scattered all over the two Americas, under and over ground, beneath and amidst virgin forests, as in plain and vale, they were supposed to be the exclusive property of Egypt.” [6] Note also the reference to the ‘serpents of wisdom’ and the later theme of Quetzlcoatl.
Mountain element represented by the Mayan culture in pyramidal stone temples. Temple of Inscriptions, Palenque, Mexico. [7]
If the Mayans have much in common with the Egyptians, then they must share a common origin. The Egyptians come from Southern India: "Under the reign of Viswamitra, first king of the Dynasty of Soma -Vanga, in consequence of a battle which lasted five days, Manu -Vina, heir of the ancient kings, being abandoned by the Brahmans , emigrated with all his companions, passing through Arya , and the countries of Barria, till he came to the shores of Masra [Cairo].” (History of India, by Collouca-Batta). Unquestionably this Manu-Vina and Menes , the first Egyptian King, are identical.
Arya , is Eran (Persia ); Barria, is Arabia, and Masra, was the name of Cairo, which to this day is called, Masr, Musr, and Misro. Phœnician history names Maser as one of the ancestors of Hermes .” [8] “Egypt herself had, in those unknown ages when Menes reigned received her laws, her social institutions, her arts and her sciences, from pre-Vedic India.” [9] Menes is undoubtedly the Manu of the second subrace (5.2 Ancient Egypt) and there is a close connection to India which persists to this day – as any traveler to both nations will attest. If the Mayans have a ‘perfect identity of the rites, ceremonies, traditions’ of Egypt then it is further proof that their genesis is in India, also known as ‘Bharata’ in ancient times. ”There is definitely an important connection between the old Vedic people and Maya-ancestors. The Mayas are actually referred to in The Mahabharata, one of the main Hindu scriptures, as a tribe having left the Indian subcontinent. There are sources who have revealed those people to be the same as the Nagas, one of the oldest Indian tribes recorded. Those Nagas seem to have been a people, later called Danavas, with a capital Nagapur. They are referred to in another main Hindu-scripture, the Ramayana, as belonging to a Naga-Maya tribe, who is said to have transmitted their culture towards Babylonia, Egypt and Greece.” [10] Naga is the Sanskrit word for serpent or snake. [11] The feathered serpent represents the Mayan God Kukulcan or Quetzacoatl, a Christ/Krishna-like figure. In those days the ancient serpent religion referred to the Serpents of Wisdom. Mercury or Hermes (Narada – see further in text) – his symbol is the caduceus : two serpents entwined around a staff. “The four principal groups in ancient India were the Asuras (Assyrians or Indus Valley people), Panis (Phoenicians), Yakhus or Yakshas (subjects of Kubera, god of gold and treasure a.k.a. Nagas) and Mayas. We know them today as the Dravidians (Tamils, Malayalam, etc.) The non Indus Valley people in ancient days were exceedingly superstitious and fearful of the Mayans. The latter were excellent international shippers and traders, builders and astronomers. Their superstitious enemies thought their accomplishments had to be magic and beyond human ability. They were ultimately driven to Ceylon where they inhabited the province of Maya. Later, they went to the Americas, having been taken there by Kubera and his Yakshas.” [12] 'Ceylon’ in those ancient times was more than likely the now sunken land to the south of India and connected geographically to the Ceylon of today, Sri Lanka. This is the ancient Tamil country of which today’s Tamil Nadu in India is but a small remnant:
Ancient Tamil NaduThe skill of the Mayan astronomers is also well known: "Recent studies suggests a link between Indus Valley and Mayans of Central America. The studies focused on the calendars of the two advanced civilizations. The Indus Valley inhabitants followed a calendar based on the movements of Jupiter, and the Mayans followed one based on the Venus. In the Puranas, a secondary Hindu scripture, Jupiter, Brihaspati, was acknowledged to be the leader of the gods, while Venus, Shukra, was the leader of the asuras. The texts further state that the devas and asuras lived on opposite sides of the Earth. Mexico and India are at opposite sides in longitude. The correspondences were pointed out by B. G. Siddarth, director of the B. M. Birla Science Centre in Hyderabad. He also said the Hindu story of the churning of the ocean has been found in carvings in Mexico, as well Mayan representations of a tortoise carrying twelve pillars similar to Indian illustrations. Dr. Ganapati Sthapati of Chennai, a foremost expert on Vastu shatra, the ancient Hindu architecture, has visited the Mayan structures in Central America and found many similarities between the design and construction methods of the Mayans and that of the ancient Hindus.” [13] South of Mexico lays Guatemala, the major centre for the Mayans, yet they ventured north and south of this location, spreading their knowledge widely. Mayan Language Language is one of the major keys to determining the movement and migration of races. Two-thirds of all the aboriginal regional names of Mexico are either variations of the name of Lanka or Tamil names of West Indian regions. This is a major key to the understanding of their ancient Sri Lankan origins which, with southern Tamil India, extended much further south, now since sunk hundreds of thousands of years ago.When speaking of their origins, the Mayans (like the Hopis) had several names for their land: Shilanka (Xilanca) - an ancient name of Ceylon (Zeilan-Ka) Shikalanka (Xicalanca) - Ceylon. In Tamil, Shikalam. A Mayan culture hero was Ishbalanka (Xbalanca) meaning in Tamil, "Shiva of Lanka" who was supposed to have made the footprint on top of Adam's Peak in Sri Lanka; modernly, in line with the prevailing Buddhist culture, it is known as (Gautama) ‘Buddha’s footprint.’ Palenque, the ancient capital of Guatamala, Palenke (Palenque) derives from the Tamil Pal-Lanka, meaning "Protectorate of Lanka." Guatemala (the main habitat of the Mayans) may derive from Gautemala, meaning "A Subsidiary Land of Gautama Buddha." Ceren was a name of Ceylon, some Mayan ruins in El Salvador are called Ceren. Mayon was one of the names of Ceylon's cult religions, still existing among a few aboriginals living on the island. Asuramaya and the Mayans “The ancient Hindu and Mayan civilizations exhibit other interesting convergences. Hindu records say that a member of a great race which preceded ours, a highly-developed personage known as Asuramaya, learned all the basic cosmic cycles and used his knowledge to determine the durations of the various geological and cyclical periods of human evolution. The chronology and computations of their still used Tamil calendar, say the Brahmans, are based upon the works of Asuramaya and upon carefully maintained collateral zodiacal records. Their most ancient extant work on astronomy, the Surya Siddhanta, says that Asuramaya lived toward the end of the Krita-yuga, a former age that ended approximately 2,165,000 years before the present. This would place Asuramaya at something less than 2.5 million years ago.” [14]
Readers can observe where the Satya or Krita age ends (2,165,100 years), about one million years before the start of the first (Hindu) subrace of the Fifth Rootrace. The death of Krishna was supposed to have heralded the Kali Yuga and there may well have been a Krishna (as there have been many Buddhas) in 3,102 BC. But the Krishna referred to in The Mahabharata heralded the Kali Age of the (Fourth) Atlantean race a few million years ago. The date of 3,102 BC is the Kali Yuga of this, our Fifth (Aryan) Rootrace. This fact has caused confusion amongst scholars and is partially responsible for Hindu and Western pundits diminishing the time-scales of the Hindu scriptures. Regarding Asuramaya, H.P. Blavatsky says:"The best and most complete of all such calendars, at present, as vouched for by the learned Brahmins of Southern India, is the already mentioned Tamil calendar called the “Tirukkanda Panchanga,” compiled, as we are told, from, and in full accordance with, secret fragments of Asuramâya’s data. As Asuramâya is said to have been the greatest astronomer, so he is whispered to have also been the most powerful “Sorcerer of the WHITE ISLAND, which had become BLACK with sin,” i.e., of the islands of Atlantis. The “White Island” is a symbolical name. Asuramâya is said to have lived (see the tradition of Jhána-bhaskara) in Romaka-pura in the West: because the name is an allusion to the land and cradle of the “Sweat-born” of the Third Race. That land or continent had disappeared ages before Asuramâya lived, since he was an Atlantean; but he was a direct descendant of the Wise Race, the Race that never dies. Many are the legends concerning this hero, the pupil of Surya (the Sun-God) himself, as the Indian accounts allege … Asuramâya, “as great a magician as he was an Astrologer and an Astronomer.”” [15] The ‘third race’ is of course one of the latter subraces of the (third) Lemurian Rootrace, from where the Hindus and Egyptians have their ancient genesis. (More on the ‘Wise Race’ later.) Due to the deterioriation of the Atlanteans, what were once divine names of the Asuras in that race gradually became applied to those who had abused their god-given powers until,“Asura was the generic appellation of all the Atlanteans who were the enemies of the spiritual heroes of the Aryans (gods).” [16]The word Asura comes from Surya, Sanskrit for the sun; Asuramaya learned his art from studying and meditating upon the Sun. In the Yoga Sutras of Patanjali it is said that, “Through meditation, one-pointedly fixed upon the sun, will come a consciousness (or knowledge) of the seven worlds.” [17]Maya is illusion, particularly in its densest manifestation upon the physical plane, the most powerful domain of the sorcerers of those days. All these events were occurring at the time of the gradual emergence of the Fifth (Aryan) Rootrace and the conflicts between the old and new races went on for some few million years after the original Mahabharata.It is interesting to note that The Lord of the Rings is a story gleaned by J.R.R. Tolkien from our racial memory and is probably a fairly accurate account of those Atlantean days of war, monsters, giants, angels and magic. The chief sorcerer against whom Gandalf (the White) fights is Saruman, whose name is virtually an anagram of Asuramaya. The Hobbits are of course, Humanity and perhaps their six toes on either foot represent the coming Sixth Rootrace! In the emerging new race Asuramaya had his counterpart (and mentor) in Narada or ‘Pesh-Hun’, the old Vedic Rishi from whom he learned all, a highly elevated Mercurial type: “… in Hindu Esotericism, Narada—who is called in Cis-Himalayan Occultism Pesh-Hun, the “Messenger,” … is the sole confidant and the executor of the universal decrees of Karma … who leads and guides human affairs from the beginning to the end of the Kalpa. “Pesh-Hun” … is the mysterious guiding intelligent power, which gives the impulse to, and regulates the impetus of cycles, Kalpas and universal events. He is Karma’s visible adjuster on a general scale … Narada … surpasses Garga’s Guru in his knowledge of cyclic intricacies. It is he who has charge of our progress and national weal or woe. It is he who brings on wars and puts an end to them. In the old Stanzas Pesh-Hun is credited with having calculated and recorded all the astronomical and cosmic cycles to come, and with having taught the Science to the first gazers at the starry vault. And it is Asuramâya, who is said to have based all his astronomical works upon those records, to have determined the duration of all the past geological and cosmical periods, and the length of the all the cycles to come, till the end of this life-cycle, or the end of the seventh Race. There is a work among the Secret Books, called the “Mirror of Futurity,” wherein all the Kalpas within Kalpas and cycles within the bosom of Sesha, or infinite Time, are recorded. This work is ascribed to Pesh-Hun Narada. There is another old work which is attributed to various Atlanteans. It is these two Records which furnish us with the figures of our [The Hierarchy] cycles, and the possibility of calculating the date of cycles to come …The chronology and computations of the Brahmin Initiates are based upon the Zodiacal records of India, and the works of the above-mentioned astronomer and magician—Asuramaya. The Atlantean zodiacal records cannot err, as they were compiled under the guidance of those who first taught astronomy, among other things, to mankind.” [18]Note one of Narada’s appellations is ‘The Messenger’ equivalent to Mercury, Hermes or the Egyptian Thoth. (Note the earlier reference to the Mayans coming from the ‘Naga tribe’.)The Mayans: Master AstronomersAs noted earlier, The studies focused on the calendars of the two advanced civilizations. The Indus Valley inhabitants followed a calendar based on the movements of Jupiter, and the Mayans followed one based on the Venus. In the Puranas, a secondary Hindu scripture, Jupiter, Brihaspati, was acknowledged to be the leader of the gods, while Venus, Shukra, was the leader of the asuras.” [19] The Mayans are well known for their astronomical accuracy through their studies of the cycles of Venus, yet their whole system of astronomy and cycles derives from their ancient Hindu past: “Modern students of the ancient Mayan numerical glyphs have found that the dating of major series of events noted on Mayan stelae invariably give such reckonings in terms of the time elapsed since a date known as 4 Ahau 8 Cumhu. They know that for the Maya chroniclers this date represented a commencement point in time-reckoning of such awesome magnitude that it was central to all else in subsequent Maya history; but they don't know what it meant or why it was so important to the latter. Among other ancient nations only one, the Hindu peoples of the Indian subcontinent, is known to have developed a system of calendrics accounting for such vast periods of time. For computing the age of the earth and various geological and other epochs, as well as the age of mankind, the learned Brahman caste still employs a Tamil calendar derived from archaic astronomical data, known as the "Tirukkanda Panchanga" (The Secret Doctrine, II:49-51).” [20] Other diverse commentators corroborate these facts:"The Mayan culture flourished in Mesoamerica during the early Christian era, before being completely wiped out by the Spanish conquest. Astronomy played a significant role in Mayan culture. Venus in particular had a pre-eminent status. Testimony to this rich tradition is borne out by Mayan temple art and the few available Codices, or sacred books, of the Mayans. Western scholars have attempted to relate the Mayan concepts to those of Greek astronomy. The sidereal Mayan astronomy is more akin to the Hindu system and does not easily fit into the Greek model.” [21] The theories about Greek astronomy are related to the misapprehension of cycles by historians and researchers down the ages – both east and west. Greece is a much more modern and recent culture, India and the Mayans are very ancient. Confusion has arisen do to cross fertilisation of ideas between Greece and India in the past few thousand years, as well as the ‘Greek-centric’ view held by many western historians.”Striking similarity is found between certain Mayan and Puranic stories, and their related astronomical interpretation. In the Puranas, Lord Vishnu is represented as resting on the serpent Ananta or Sesa, after having dissolved all creation. The serpent represents the eternity of time (Ananta), and the "remainder" (Sesa) in subtle form, of prakriti, the germ of all that has been and will be. After waking up from the yoganidra, Vishnu rides on the eagle Garuda. Both Garuda and Sesa are shown in association with Vishnu in the temples of India. It is said that Garuda represents the Vedas and the solar deities, and Sesa represents the watery deities. The serpent [Naga] is of great significance in the Mayan culture also. A supreme example is the serpent of sunlight and shadow seen at Chichén Itzá. At the time of the equinoxes, as the Sun moves from east to west, a pattern of light and shadow appears on the west balustrade of the north stairway of the Castillo at Chichén Itzá. This display resembles a descending snake whose head is the monumental serpent head carved out of stone at the foot of the stairs. The feathered serpent represents the Mayan God Kukulcan, who is associated with rain water and new life, among other things. Kukulcan appears to be Sesa and Garuda combined into one.” [22] "In the book The Conquest of the Maya by J. Leslie Mitchell, he explains that the basis of the old Maya empire was not of the work of the ancestors of the present day Maya, but was an import from the same foreigners that built the palaces and temples of the Chams and Khmers in Cambodia, and the temples in Java. He also points out the similarities between the Maya rain-god Chac and the Vedic Indian Indra, and the Maya monkey-god and the Vedic Hanuman. The Vedic origin is further enhanced by the frequency that the elephant motif is found in Maya art, especially the earlier works of the Maya, such as at Copan, although the elephant never existed in the region.” [23] The reader will note that the temples of Cambodia are commented upon in the newsletter “Ancient Cambodia: Angkor Wat and the Egyptian Connection.” The ancient Khmer (Cambodian) culture probably belongs to the second subrace of the Fifth Rootrace (5.2), the same as the Egyptians and Mayans, but of a different branchrace lineage. One is reminded of the vast extent of the Indian empire that stretched from South East Asia to Persia (Iran); it also extended southward to the old Tamil country, since sunk. "One reason for these similarities between the Americas and India is that in ancient Vedic times there were two great architects, Visvakarma of the demigods or Aryans, and Maya of the asuras. Surya Siddhanta was revealed to Mayasura by Sun. The Mayan people, also known as technicians, were no doubt named as such because of being connected with this person named Maya or Mayasura and Maya Danava. They were a part of his clan or tribe. They had fallen away from the Vedic way of life and were sent or escaped to the region of Central America. They also carried with them much of the science of astronomy and navigation for which this Mayasura was known. Mayasura’s knowledge is more fully explained in the classic work of Indian Vedic astronomy known as the Surya Siddhanta for which he is given credit. Many people have wondered from where the Mayan acquired their astronomical knowledge. This would explain how the Mayan people had such a high degree of understanding in astronomy, from which they also developed their calendar. The Mayan calendar was a science they had long developed, carrying it with them from their previous location and civilization.” [24] Note the reversal of Asuramaya’s name but the same historical details are intact. The Mayans were known as ‘technicians’ a very interesting word that denotes strong influence of the Fifth Ray of Science, which of course is related to astronomy. This ‘fifth aspect’ not only corresponds to the Fifth Rootrace and ‘fifth continent’ mentioned earlier but to possibly a fifth branchrace (clan/tribe) ‘signature’ such as 5.2.5 – the 5th branchrace of the second subrace of the Fifth Rootrace. The second subrace of the Fifth Rootrace (5.2) came forth around 860,000 years ago [25] – at the second great Atlantean flood and coincident with the migration from India that established the Egyptian civilisation on the Nile.
Atlantean Islands
This map is one of many speculations of the location of the Atlantean islands. It has been included to illustrate how it would not have been very difficult for the ancient Mayans (renowned mariners), to ‘island hop’ their way across the Atlantic from Africa to where Guatemala is today; if they came the same route as the Egyptians from India and kept heading west. "Like the Vedic culture, the Maya had a pantheon of demigods, many of which have similarities to the Vedic deities. Mayan gods like Xiuhtechutli and Xipe Totec have their Vedic counterparts in Indra and Agni. Indra, like Xiuhtechutli, was the rain god and guardian of the Eastern Quadrant, and Agni, similar to Xipe Totec, was the god of sacrificial fire, born in wood and the life force of trees and plants. Then there is the Vedic Ushas, the beautiful goddess of Dawn or Sky, who is similar to the Mayan view of Venus, goddess of Dawn … Furthermore, hymn 121 of the book ten in the [Hindu] Rig Veda is very similar to the description of creation as found in the [Mayan] Popul Vuh.” [26] None of this pantheon of gods would be complete without the legendary Quetzalcoatl: ”A Mesoamerican Christ: Quetzalcoatl is to the New World what Christ is to Europe [or Krishna to India]: the center of a religious cosmology and the pre-eminent symbol of the civilized nations of Mesoamerica. Both were considered to be men who ascended into heaven upon their death; Christ to sit at the right hand of God, Quetzalcoatl to become the Morning Star [Venus]. Both were tempted by evil powers; Christ by Satan, Quetzalcoatl by the wizard-god Tezcatlipoca. And both were prophesied to one day return to earth, Christ as the Prince of the Kingdom of Heaven, Quetzalcoatl as a god-king returned to claim his kingdom in Central Mexico. To understand the life and teachings of Jesus Christ is to understand Christianity, the root religion of what we refer to as Western Civilization. To understand the life and mystery of Quetzalcoatl is to understand the religious thought of what we call Mesoamerica.” [27]
Quetzalcoatl
Mayan Calendar “The Vedic, Maya, and Hopi calendars all describe our current age as the fourth world. The Maya and Hopi calendars also describe the ending of a great age around the year 2000 (several Mayan calendar cycles end at winter solstice, 2012). Mayan cycles describe the Earth's Great Year (a ~24,000-year cycle caused by the Earth's wobble) as well as an additional rotation of our sun and galaxy around Alcyon, central star of the Pleiades. The Maya are one of many cultures (as far-flung as the Australian Aborigines, the ancient Greeks, and several Native American nations) with stories about the Pleiades.” [28] “Incredibly, at the early Maya site of Izapa in southern Mexico, the galactic cosmology and a profound spiritual teaching are preserved. Izapa speaks to us of the Galactic Alignment in 2012 as a transformative nexus in time, a still-point turnabout, inviting us to reconnect with our cosmic heart and eternal source.” [29] "The doctrine of the World's Ages (from Hindu Yugas) was imported into Pre-Columbian America ... the Mexican sequence is identical with the Hindus ...The essential fact remains that they were derived from a common source ... It would be ridiculous to assert that such a strange doctrine was of spontaneous origin in different parts of the Old and New Worlds." [30] The above passage is a more exoteric view but nonetheless testifies to the origin of Mayan astronomy. These yugas contain other yugas within them, or cycles within cycles: “The Dvapara Yuga differs for each Race. All races have their own cycles, which fact causes a great difference. For instance, the Fourth Sub-Race of the Atlanteans was in its Kali-Yug , when destroyed, whereas the Fifth was in its Satya or Krita Yuga. [Approximately 4 million years ago.] The Aryan Race is now in its Kali Yuga [3,102 BC] , and will continue to be in it for 427,000 years longer, while various “family Races ,” called the Semitic , Hamitic, etc., are in their own special cycles. The forthcoming 6th Sub Race [of the Fifth Rootrace or 5.6] —which may begin very soon—will be in its Satya (golden) age while we reap the fruit of our iniquity in our Kali Yuga.” [31] These dark and golden ages (Kali and Satya) overlap as one cycle finishes and another starts. The above statement is confirmed in the Puranas where Lord Krishna tells Ganga Devi that a Golden Age will come in the Kali Yuga. Lord Krishna predicted that this Golden Age will start 5,000 years after the begnning of the Kali Yuga, and will last for 10,000 years. The Mayan Calendar measures the unfolding evolution of consciousness - as do all cycles that are impelled by the rays, planets, yugas or zodiac signs; they all embody a much higher consciousness it is actually two calendars that are closely inter-related: The Tzolkin (Daily Calendar) of 260 days, and the Tun (Prophetic Calendar) of 360 days. These two 'calendars' intermesh like gears, the smaller Tzolkin with 260 ‘teeth’ (days) intermeshing with the larger Tun (360 ‘teeth’/days), then as the Tzolkin turns so does the Tun. It takes 72 turns of the Tzolkin calendar ('gear') and 52 turns of the Tun calendar ('gear') for each 'tooth' (day) of each 'gear' (calendar) to come into contact. i.e. 18,720 days (72 x 260 or 52 x 360), or approximately 51 Gregorian calendar years. (18,720/365).
Mayan Calendar or Sunstone
The carvings in the stone represent the four cycles of creation and destruction. The skull at the center depicts the god, Tonatiuh, the fifth sun. The calendar was also adopted by the Aztec and Toltec nations after renaming the days and months. The Maya of the Mayan Calendar (Maya = Illusion) “One of the secrets of initiation is concerned with the apprehension of cycles , and with their duration … before a man is considered a true occultist .” [32] One problem with comprehension of the Mayan Calendar is the hype about it in ‘New Age’ circles. Esoterically the whole subject is ‘glamoured’ - there have been so many speculations, claims and distortions by academics, mystics and ‘new agers’.The exact astronomical date in 2,012 is something that the general public tend to get somewhat fixated upon, creating confusion, fear and much futile speculation; this is a perennial problem and other ‘significant dates’, including the yearly cycle of eclipses, that continually attract superstitious and uninformed reactions. John Major Jenkins, a leading scholar of the Mayan Calendar, has the following to say: “So, in point of fact, we have a previous testimonial of Don Alejandro, from an interview he did with reporters that was published as "The Mayan Worldview of the Universe" by Patrisia Gonzales and Roberto Rodriguez, Universal Press Syndicate. The Denver Post, January 2, 2000. In it, we read:"Based on thousands of years of astronomical observation, a cataclysm is indeed predicted by indigenous elders, as opposed to "prophesized." No one is predicting that at the strike of midnight, Dec, 20, 2012, the world will end. Instead, Mayan elders predict that the cataclysm can occur within a year or 100 years—and the cause would be something astronomical as opposed to metaphysical." [Jenkins continues…] I've always agreed with this idea, that we should think of the 2012 end date as being a "zone" stretching on the order of decades. I don't agree with the above view that the end date is only an astronomical event, for the physical dimension and the metaphysical (or spiritual) dimension unfold in parallel. We further read in the interview that: "We don't know what will happen in the next few days or in the next 12 years. What we do know is that it wouldn't hurt to listen to the worlds of Don Alejandro who said that on Dec. 20, 2012 Mother Earth will pass inside the center of a magnetic axis and that it may be darkened with a great cloud for 60 or 70 hours and that because of environmental degradation, she may not be strong enough to survive the effects. 'It will enter another age, but when it does, there will be great and serious events. Earthquakes, marimotos (tsunamis), floods, volcanic eruptions, and great illness on the planet Earth. Few survivors will be left.'" [Jenkins continues…] “Thus, beginning on December 20, as stated, the events stretch almost three full days ("60 or 70 hours") through December 21st. The Earth passing "inside the center of a magnetic axis" is a striking description and sounds like the way I described the alignment in the last chapter to Maya Cosmogenesis 2012. "Darkened by a great cloud" almost sounds like a reference to the dark-rift in the Milky Way. Notice the difference between this conception of "earth in the darkness" and my alignment description — where I describe it as the sun passing through the dark-rift, through the "galactic axis," with different magnetic or gyroscopic effects on either side. I suppose Don Alejandro's wording works fine, it's just a translation or interpretation of where the effect is really to be felt (on Earth, ultimately) … "He [Carlos] said Mayan Daykeepers view the Dec. 21, 2012 date as a rebirth, the start of the World of the Fifth Sun. It will be the start of a new era resulting from and signified by the solar meridian crossing the galactic equator, and the earth aligning itself with the center of the galaxy. At sunrise on December 21, 2012 for the first time in 26,000 years the Sun rises to conjunct the intersection of the Milky Way and the plane of the ecliptic. This cosmic cross is considered to be an embodiment of the Sacred Tree, The Tree of Life, a tree remembered in all the world's spiritual traditions. Some observers say this alignment with the heart of the galaxy in 2012 will open a channel for cosmic energy to flow through the earth, cleansing it and all that dwells upon it, raising all to a higher level of vibration."" [33] Interesting to note that the winter solstice period (in the northern hemisphere) will have its inherent symbolism of the ‘greatest darkness’ of winter extraordinarily amplified within the cosmic macrocosm in 2012. The winter solstice is a time of initiation where the candidate to the mysteries must ‘find their way through the dark’. The conjunction of the Sun with Pluto in December 2012 signifies the darkness of the underworld experience, transformation and initiation. The Moon is conjunct Uranus in Aries, reflecting the new revolutionary cycle that will begin in consciousness. Perhaps Humanity has an opportunity to do this en masse? A shift that may occur several years around this date is confirmed by other sources: “In the time of the Buddha and through the stimulation He produced there was a great gathering in of Arhats [4th degree Initiates]. These were men who had achieved liberation through self initiated effort. This period, in our Aryan race, marked a climax for the East . Since then the tide of spiritual life has steadily flowed westward, and we may now look for a corresponding climax in the West , which will reach its zenith between the years 1965 and 2025.” [34]
[1] The Secret Doctrine II, H.P. Blavatsky. P.35. [2] The Secret Doctrine II, H.P. Blavatsky. P.8. [3] Isis Unveiled I, H.P. Blavatsky. P.557. [4] http://www.hinduwsdom.org/ (source: India and Egypt - edited by Saryu Doshi, p. 69.) [5] Encyclopædia Britannica 2007 Ultimate Reference Suite. [6] The Secret Doctrine II, H.P. Blavatsky. P.352. [7] Encyclopædia Britannica 2007 Ultimate Reference Suite. [8] Isis Unveiled I, H.P. Blavatsky. p.627. [9] Isis Unveiled I, H.P. Blavatsky. p.589. [10] Una Vision del Mundo, Prof. G. Zapata Alonzo, Merida, Mexico, 1994, p.71. [11] See “Ophiucus : Astronomy , Astrology & the “Thirteenth Constellation” in Soul Cycles of the Seven Rays, Phillip Lindsay. [12] Will the Maya Prophecy Really Happen? Gene D. Matlock. [13] Hyderabad, INDIA, April 29, 2002. [14] Dr. B. N. Narahari Achar. Professor of physics at the University of Memphis. [15] The Secret Doctrine II, H.P. Blavatsky. Pp.67-8. p.50. [16] The Secret Doctrine II, H.P. Blavatsky. P.227. [17] The Light of the Soul, Alice A. Bailey. P.297. [18] The Secret Doctrine II, H.P. Blavatsky. P.50. [19] Hyderabad, INDIA, April 29, 2002. [20] Ciphers and Civilizations, Blair Moffett. [21] Dr. B. N. Narahari Achar. [22] Maya-Hindu Connection, Dr. B. N. Narahari Achar. http://www.hinduismtoday.com/ [23] Proof Vedic Culture's Global Existence, Stephen Knapp pp.246-7. [24] Proof Vedic Culture's Global Existence, Stephen Knapp pp.246-7. [25] See The Hidden History of Humanity, Phillip Lindsay. pp.361-370. [26] Proof Vedic Culture's Global Existence, Stephen Knapp p. 246 -247. [27] Breakthrough Celebration:A Global Process leading into the Quetzalcoatl/Christ energy of the Fifth Day, Carl Johan Calleman. [28] ‘JC’. www.alley29.com/Sphinx%20Group/sphinx.htm l[29] John Major Jenkins, leading Mayan scholar. [30] Myths of Pre-Columbian America, Donald Alexander Mackenzie (1873-1936). [31] The Secret Doctrine II, H.P. Blavatsky. p.147.fn. [32] A Treatise on Cosmic Fire, Alice A. Bailey. p.792. [33] John Major Jenkins in his article, “Carl Calleman's latest assault on the traditional end-date, December 21, 2012.” [34] The Light of the Soul, Alice A. Bailey. pp.ix-x.
second part
Traces of India in Ancient Egypt
[From Manu and Herodotus]
Lucifer, September, 1889
“Who is the God to whom we shall offer worship? He whose shadow is Immortality!”—Rig Veda.
“The Egyptians are the first of mankind who have taught the Immortality of the Soul!”—Herodotus.
Egypt has no Stone Age. Her civilization is as perfect at the dawn of her history as when she ceased to be a nation.
Like Athene, sprung full-armoured from the brow of Zeus, the old race of Egypt appear fully equipped in arts, religions, and sciences.
This ready-made perfection must be the flower of some older nation’s growth; and that older nation, says the author of Isis Unveiled, is Ancient India; and Menes is the Manu-Vina of Kalluka Bhatta, who was driven from his motherland, and colonized the Valley of the Nile.
Besides the evidence quoted to support this view, there is much in the history of Egypt, deciphered from the papyri and collected from the writers of Greece, that may lead to its demonstration.
We shall bring forward from one of these, Herodotus, such facts as may shew a connexion between the Egypt he described, and the laws, religions, and customs of the India of Manu’s Code.
The hierarchies of India and Egypt were alike dominant: in both, a hereditary caste, strong, learned, guardians of the sacred books, monuments, and sciences; hierophants of the divine mysteries.
Ceremony and ritual, the inheritance of a still greater antiquity, are all-important to the Brahman of Manu’s Code; and in Egypt, Herodotus tells us:
“It would be difficult to enumerate all their religious ceremonies, all of which they practise with superstitious exactness.”1
Many of these ceremonies are described by Herodotus, and many are identical with the Brahmanical ceremonies of the Mânava Code.
Both priesthoods are· appointed to sacrifice to the Gods; they both slay the sacred animals on certain specified days; and both use as food the flesh of the bulls they have sacrificed. Both study their sacred scriptures, and the lives of their Gods and divine ancestors, both have certain customs on the death of their relations, and for both a system of dress is prescribed.
The Brahman of Manu is to bathe at regular periods, to wear only clean linen, to cut his hair short, to abstain from certain foods, and to avoid impure contacts. He is to purify himself by washing if contaminated, to clean his brass bowl before eating, and to purify it by fire if polluted by an unholy touch.
From Herodotus we learn that:
“The priests of the gods in Egypt wear their hair short.”2
And, as in India:
“One of their customs is to drink out of a brazen goblet, which it is the universal practice among them to cleanse every day.”3
In Egypt, as in India, bathing was a religious rite, and the tank and the temple were equally sacred. Herodotus says:
“The priesthood of Egypt wash themselves with cold water twice a day, and as often in the night,”4 to enter clean into the service of the Gods.
Further, Herodotus tells us:
“The Egyptian priests are so regardful of cleanliness that they wear only one vesture of linen, and that newly washed.”5
The picture in these passages is a perfect counterpart of the Brahman of Manu:
“With hair and beard clipt, passions subdued, his mantle white, and his body pure.”6
The religion taught by these sacred castes was not less identical than their raiment. Setting aside their theology, and turning to the mysteies of human life, we find that both had reached the same great solutions.
The greatest and noblest doctrine in the world was common to both, and though Herodotus tells us that:
“The Egyptians were the first of mankind who taught the Immortality of the Soul.”7
We cannot doubt that this belief was as old, if not older, in India, for it appears in the earliest Veda.
To this doctrine of the Immortal Soul, both nations added a belief in its development through many lives. The Egyptians held that the Soul—
“After three thousand years, enters a second time into a human body.”8
And the doctrine in Manu, as in all the Hindu Shastras, is the same;9 and to complete the parallel, in both countries the pure doctrine of reincarnation was debased into transmigration through animals, in the popular religion.
In both countries there was a sacred succession of hierophants:
In Egypt,
“Each was a Piromis, the son of a Piromis.”
As in India, at Aringiri,
“Each hierophant is a Sankarâcharya, the son of a Sankarâcharya.”
For the meaning, and Indian analogies of the Egyptian
“Twelve great Gods that ruled before Amasis, and the eight from whom they were produced,”10
Readers must refer to the Secret Doctrine.
The processions of Jaganath are identical with what Herodotus describes:
“The priests attendant upon the statue place it upon a four-wheeled car, and begin to draw it.”11
A curious triple parallel may be made out in the reverence paid to the cow, the sacrifice of bulls, and the meat eaten by the priests.
In both countries the cow was sacred and never sacrificed.12 In both countries the bull was sacred and used for sacrifice.13
And in both the flesh of the bull, though used in sacrifice, was eaten by the priests.14
And further, both priesthoods were forbidden to eat the flesh of the hog, and permitted to eat geese.
It is difficult to see how these parallels can be the result of independent growth, especially when taken together with the coincidences already given, and to be given.
The Egyptian who touches a hog is enjoined to plunge at once into the nearest water, and the Brahman whom the touch of any unclean thing has defiled, can only be purified by repeated bathing.
Here a slight digression must be permitted. Isis, says Herodotus, is represented as a woman with horns upon her head, because the cow was a sacred animal; but Isis more often bears a crescent moon on her brow. Further, certain sacrifices connected with generation were celebrated only on certain days of the moon.
This connexion between Isis, the moon, the sacred cow, and the phallic sacrifices, can only be understood, apparently, by using the triple key, “Diana in heaven, Lucina on earth, Proserpine in hell.”
Diana is the moon, whose crescent, the symbol of re-birth, appears on the brow of Isis, the Goddess of wisdom and spiritual re-birth. Lucina is the Goddess of birth, and of the process of gestation, measured by lunar periods. Proserpine, daughter of Ceres, Persephone, daughter of Demeter (Isis) is the Goddess of the under-world, and of the Eleusinian and other mysteries in which the under-world was represented. Demeter-Isis is the Goddess of spiritual birth, as Lucina is of natural birth.15 The sacred associations which bound together the ideas of birth and re-birth in spirit, re-appear in the question of Nicodemus,16 the representative of the learning of the Rabbis.
In the laws of Moses, who was “learned in all the wisdom of the Egyptians,” there are many traces of the influence of the sojourn in Egypt. Amongst these are circumcision, and the classification of clean and unclean animals; and Herodotus tells a story of Hercules that has a close parallel in the history of the Hebrew Law-giver.17
“The God Ammon they say, was long averse to the solicitations of Herakles to see his person; but in consequence of his importunity, the God used the following plan: he cut the head off a ram, and clothing himself in its skin, shewed himself in that form to Herakles.”
The Hebrew and the Egyptian allegories have both doubtless several meanings, the chief being the manifestation of God in nature; another refers to the initiation of Moses and Hercules—a son of Jupiter—into the wisdom of the Logos—the Shechinah—the visible glory of the hidden God.
Another story of Hercules, who allowed himself to be bound with the sacred fillet, and on being led forth to be sacrificed,
“Exerted his strength and put his enemies to death,”18
is repeated in the history of Samson.
To return to the Egyptian and Indian parallels:
In both countries the crocodile was a sacred animal, and in both the lotus is a type of immortality.
Herodotus tells us that:
“The Egyptians first imagined what month or day was to be consecrated to each deity; they also, from observing the days of nativity, venture to predict the particular circumstances of a man’s life and death.”
The antiquity of Indian Moti-shastras, calendars, and astrology, can hardly be established with exactness, but cannot be less than 5,000 years, and is very likely much older, so that India may well be the source of the Egyptian sciences.
Having thus traced the similarities in the priesthoods and religions of these two sacred lands, we may turn to their common customs and social life.
“The men have two vestures, the women only one.”19 Herodotus tells us.
The Hindu women wear only one “vesture,” draped most gracefully around the whole form, and covering the head. The Hindu men wear two, the one fastened round the waist, the other over the shoulders.
The Hindu women have an uncleanly practice in collecting the habitual fuel of the country; the same practice in another race seems to have struck Herodotus, who says:
“The Egyptians do not scruple to use their hands in the removal——” of the substance in question. And yet both nations are religiously clean in other particulars.
“The Egyptians are so regardful of neatness that they wear only linen, and that newly washed,”20
As do the Hindus.
“Their laws compel them to cherish animals,” says Herodotus,
And Ahimsatâ, “indestructiveness,” or kindness to animals, is continually urged as a virtue in the Hindu shâstras.
“The Egyptians are attentive to the memory beyond the rest of mankind.”21
The Brahmans were also “attentive to the memory”; Brahmans learned the Vedas by heart, and the Sutras are a regular system of versus memorialis.
The high proficiency of both nations in surgery, and their skill in weaving can only be mentioned. Both nations used palm-wine, and planted palm-trees round their temples.
Herodotus heard a story about the sources of the Nile.
“I have only met with one person who pretended to know the sources of the Nile. This was a priest at Sais. He informed me that there were two steep mountains, Crophi and Mophi. He informed me that sources of the Nile, of unfathomable depth, flowed from the centres of these mountains; that one of these streams flowed through Egypt to the north, the other flowed south.”
It may be suggested that this story, from the temple of Sais, though not true of the Nile, may be true of another river, and may be a reminiscence of the motherland of the race that colonised Egypt.
For in this motherland, if it be India, there are two sacred mountains, lofty and steep, and from their centres rise two great rivers, the one flowing north, and the other flowing south, and the name of the one is Nila, the deep-blue Indus.
But more remarkable than all the coincidences we have cited, is the practical identity of the Caste systems of Chemi and Arya Varrtta22 an identity to which it is hardly possible to attach too great importance. In both we have pre-eminent a sacerdotal class, the possessors of all the wisdom, learning, and science, and the mysteries in both lands; two hierarchies the like of which no other land has seen; both hereditary, both holy, and identical in many of the details of their life and ritual.
In Chemi and Arya Varrtta a soldier class stood next to the priests, a hereditary class of nobles and warriors, the administrators and defenders of the State.
In both we have a mercantile and servile caste, or group of castes. And though Manu divides his people into only four classes:
“Priests, Warriors, Traders, Labourers,”23
While Herodotus mentions seven:
“Priests, Warriors, Traders, Interpreters, Pilots, Herdsmen and Swine-herds,”24
the two first (and probably the rest) being as strictly hereditary as in India. But, of these seven, the traders, interpreters, and pilots naturally fall under one Mercantile class, while the herdsmen and swineherds may well form a servile caste, if the latter be not outcasts.
But in connection with these seven castes it may well be pointed out that another Greek traveller, almost a contemporary of Herodotus, in describing the actual system of castes in India when he visited it, gives these also as seven instead of four:
“Priests, Warriors, Counsellors, Inspectors, Husbandmen, Shepherds, and Artisans.”25
When we note this and further perceive that in both lands “the priests and warriors were the only classes honourably distinguished,”26 the grants of public land given to both classes in India as in Egypt, the duty of warriors to serve in rotation as royal guards in both, and their strict heredity; we cannot fail to conclude that these two Greeks, Megasthenes and Herodotus, were observing and describing identical systems in the two countries, India and Egypt.
It is hard to leave the Father of History without touching on some of his wonderful stories of Egypt, his golden-winged crimson phœnix, his flying serpents, his “sacred reasons,” his “admirable Egyptians, the most ancient of mankind,” his measure of twelve months and 360 days, a measure used in the Puranas of India, his theories of deltas, of soundings, of raised beaches, and geology, of inundations, his oracles, the two black pigeons of Dodona, his sacred dynasties, his race of black pigmy magicians, his hints of the mysteries, and more, but space forbids.
Herodotus’ picture of Egypt and the evidence of customs, castes, and ritual to be drawn from his history, have far more weight than any modern reconstructions; for when the Historian visited Chemi twenty-four centuries ago, the old sacerdotal system was still full of life. Piromis still succeeded Piromis, as Hierophant and Priest; the Worship of Isis, and Ammon-Ra still lingered in their sacred temples; he saw the holy processions of Horus and Osiris, the midnight ceremony on the sacred island, in the Lake of the Dead. Herodotus had been initiated into those sacred mysteries whose echoes only reach us through Plato and Iamblichus; he had talked with the scribes of the hieroglyphics, and had listened to the history of their Celestial Rulers. Egypt was then alive, and not as now, only a sacred ruin.
1. Herodotus: Euterpe 37.
2. Her. Eu. 36.
3. Her. Eu. 37.
4. Her. Eu. 37.
5. Her. Eu. 37.
6. Manu, v. 35.
7. Her. Eu. 123.
8. Her. Eu. 123.
9. Manu, xii. 16-22.
10. Her. Eu. 43.
11. Her. Eu. 63.
12. Her. Eu. 41, and Manu, v. 30.
13. Her. Eu. 38, and Manu, v. 41.
14. Her. Eu. 37, and Manu, v. 41.
15. Her. Eu. 41 and 47.
16. St. John, chap. iii.
17. Exodus xxxiii, 20; and Her. Eu. 42.
18. Her. Eu. 45.
19. Her. Eu. 37.
20. Her. Eu. 64.
21. Her. Eu. 77.
22. We leave untouched the author’s spelling, as it more closely represents the phonetic value of the syllables than the commonly accepted one of our Western Orientalists.—[ED.]
India: “Under the reign of Viswamitra, first king of the Dynasty of Soma -Vanga, in consequence of a battle which lasted five days, Manu -Vina, heir of the ancient kings, being abandoned by the Brahmans , emigrated with all his companions, passing through Arya , and the countries of Barria, till he came to the shores of Masra [Cairo].” (History of India, by Collouca-Batta). Unquestionably this Manu-Vina and Menes , the first Egyptian King, are identical. Barria, is Arabia, and Masra, was the name of Cairo, which to this day is called, Masr, Musr, and Misro. Phœnician history names Maser as one of the ancestors of Hermes .” “Egypt herself had, in those unknown ages when Menes reigned received her laws, her social institutions, her arts and her sciences, from pre-Vedic India.” Menes is undoubtedly the Manu of the second subrace (5.2 Ancient Egypt) and there is a close connection to India which persists to this day – as any traveler to both nations will attest. If the Mayans have a ‘perfect identity of the rites, ceremonies, traditions’ of Egypt then it is further proof that their genesis is in India, also known as ‘Bharata’ in ancient times. ”There is definitely an important connection between the old Vedic (Vedic period) people and Maya-ancestors. The Mayas are actually referred to in The Mahabharata , one of the main Hindu scriptures, as a tribe having left the Indian subcontinent. There are sources who have revealed those people to be the same as the Nāga, one of the oldest Indian tribes recorded. Those Nagas seem to have been a people, later called Danavas, with a capital Nagapur. They are referred to in another main Hindu-scripture, the Ramayana, as belonging to a Naga-Maya tribe, who is said to have transmitted their culture towards Babylonia, Egypt and Greece.” Other known kingdoms is that of the Mayan Snake Dynasty Calakmul, Kingdom of the Snake or Snake Kingdom. Other historical factors are *Kukulkan, Q’uq’umatz of the K’iche’ Maya and Quetzalcoatl of the Aztecs. Nāgas(serpents) in Hindu Mythology are the sons of Kashyapa from Kadru and Surasa.
In Hindu mythology, Maya (Sanskrit: मय), or Mayāsura (मयासुर) was a great ancient king of the asuras, daityas and rākṣasa races. Maya was known for his brilliant architecture. In Mahabharatha, Mayasabha – the hall of illusions – was named after him
Mayasura had befriended a snake named Takshaka and lived with him in the area of Khandavprastha along with his family and friends but when the Pandavas came there after the partition of Hastinapur, Arjun burnt the entire forest, forcing Takshaka to flee away and killing everyone in the forest. So, Mayasura decided to surrender to the Pandavas. Krishna was ready to forgive him and for this act, Mayasura built a very grand palace named Maya-Mahal, where the Pandavas would perform the Rajsuya Yagna. He also offer him the gifts like, a bow, a sword and many more. He also gave a mace to Arjuna's brother Bhima.
In Ramayana he is said to be the son of Daksha's daughter, Diti (wife of Kashyapa, a Saptaṛṣi).[1] He is the husband of Hema[2] and the foster father of Mandodari, the beautiful wife of Ravana, King of Lanka.[3]
OUR ancient ancestors are migrated from south (tamil) to north (rajasthan) in vedic period , they are dravidian ? or Aryan ?
what is the symbol of FISH is about ?
MANU- MATSYA- VILLAVAR-MEENAVAR - MEENA different dynasty with same culture (vedic) with same symbol
INDUS VALLEY AND ITS FOUNDER ARE THE DRAVIDIAN ? WAS OUR ANCIENT ANCESTORS HAD a common symbol oF fish , Fish sign shows in indus valley is represent that they are also a kingdom of Matsya (fish Vishnu First Avatar).
start from Tamil to INDUS valley via rajasthan
Villavars were the primary rulers among the Dravidians. Villavars (Bowmen who used a bow as their main weapon) were archers who emerged from the ancient martial clans of India. The Tamil Villavars were also known as or Eyinars in Pandyan Kingdom Ezhinar in the Sri Lanka and Chera Kingdom respectively.
In the ancient times Rajasthan was ruled by a dynasty of Meenas which had the emblem of Fish like the Pandyan kingdom of the south. The Meena kingdom ruled the east of the river Jamuna roughly corresponding to the modern Jaipur and Alwar (ruler) areas.
The meena kingdom (Fish kingdom) was called Matsya Kingdom in Sanskrit was mentioned in the Rig Veda. The Bhil Meenas could correspond to the Dravidian Villavar (Chera) and Meenavar (Pandya Kingdom)respectively and may descend from indigenous Dravidian rulers (Alwars) originally.
Most of the Bhil Meenavas were aryanised even during the Vedic Period (1500 BC) and were considered as Vedic Tribes and had adopted Indo-Aryanlanguages but a minority of the Bhil (tribal) Meenas still talk Dravidian as their mother tongue. Bhils and Meenas are included in the Kshatriya Varna.In the later days the Bhils and Meenas mixed with the Pardeshis or Rajputs who were Scythian, Hepthalite or other Central Asian clans. The Scythian mixed Meenas and Bhils remain as Rajput subclans while the Meenas and Bhils who were displaced by the Scythian invaders and Muslims have mixed with the tribal Bhils and form ,
The Bhil (tribal) meenas who still talk a Dravidian tongue and still considered as Rajputs.
Bhil meenas are also found in parts of North eastern India and Sind area of Pakistan. The Bhil tribals, The Billavas of Tulunadu of Karnataka, The Villavar Clans of Kerala who founded the Chera Kingdom all are Villavars. The Ezhavas or Illavas of Kerala are also descendents of this Villavar tribe of Kerala. The Villavars of Kerala and Illavars of Sri Lanka after whom Eeelam or Heladipa is named were relatives.
Chera Kingdom
Chera Kingdom Flag symbol was Bow & Arrow:
The Chera king had the title Villavar Kon indicating Villavar clans founded the ancient Chera Kingdom. The Emblem on the flag of Cheras was Bow and Arrow and Holy symbol Is fish, same as matsya dynasty. The Chera kingdomwas founded by the integration of various Villvar tribes such as Vanavar, Puraiyar, Velliar and Pazhuvettaraiyars. After the arrival of Nagas the Villavar(Ezhava) culture who cherished Patriarchy and Monogamy was replaced by Matriarchy with Polyandry as the norm. Soon around the 12th century the Chera dynasty came to an end when the last Chera King along with his relatives became a Muslim. In the later periods the Nagas dominated Kerala while the Villavar tribes were pushed down to occupy a lower stratum.
Pandyan Kingdom (Present Madurai, Tirunelveli and Ramanthapuram)
Titles : Maran, Valudhi and Chezhiyan Capital: Madurai Royal Emblem: Fish
Port: Korkai
The flag of the Pandiyan kingdom had fish as the emblem. same as ancient Matsya Kingdom
The Pandiya Kingdom symbol was Twin Fish
The Meenavars of Pandyan Kingdom was the allies of the Villavars. The Meenavars (fishermen) had some role in the founding of the Pandyan kingdom at Korkai.
The Mara Nadars or Nadalvars who were the main dynasty of the ancient Pandyan kingdom could be of Villavar stock too.
Villavars and Meenavars (minavar)
The Kalitokai, an ancient Tamil work, mentions the association of the Villavars(Bowmen) and their allies Meenavars(Fishermen)(known as Matsya Kings in "Mahabharatha") who fought a fierce battle against Nagas.
When the Villavars and Minavars were defeated by the Nagas in the Central India, the Present day Maharashtra, Chatthisgarh and Madyapradesh area was lost to the Villavars and Nagas occupied it.
The North Indian Villavars
Rajputs regard the Bhils though tribals one among them. The North Indian Villavar clans might have been assimilated by the Rajputs. Until recently during the coronation of Rajput princes their foreheads had to be smeared by the blood drawn from the thumb of a Dravidian Bhil tribal to authenticate their authority.
Fate of the Meenavars
Meenavars might have mixed with Parada or Paratarajas or ParvataRajaKulam, an Indo-Scythian clan and got alienated from the Villavar clans. Mudirajus or Mudaliar a Kalabhra aristocracy who once ruled Chera, Chola and Pandyan kingdoms as Muvendars regard Paratas as one of their own clan. Now at the present day, Meenavar caste has been spread up to eight divisions, the major tribes are Maravar and paravar(parathavar), who were ancient rulers of land and seas of Pandya kingdom. Parataraja
References
^ V., Kanakasabhai (1997). The Tamils Eighteen Hundred Years Ago. Asian Educational Services.
^ Perumal Thirumozhi
^ Pandyan Inscription
^ [C:\Documents and Settings\winxp\Desktop\History\Book 2 Cosmos Taprobane Brachman India Cosmas.mht# Cosmas Indicopleustes, Christian Topography (1897) pp. 23-90. Book 2 ]
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